Bonjour,

There are some interesting interactions on this forum. Thank you, Messiah 2030, for giving us the opportunity to express ourselves. Let us continue to share our thoughts and edify one another in brotherly love.

For what it is worth, here is my current understanding of what we could expect in the next 7 years:

- In the next few weeks or months, the ashes settle down in Israel. Hamas is almost completely eradicated (but will reappear in the future).
(I may be wrong, but I do not think things will worsen on the Northen border with Lebanon. Iran will probably keep its deported forces [the Hezbollah] for the future war).

- With Hamas out of the picture, Saudi Arabia and Israel enter into a covenant. (This covenant has nothing to do with the 7 years peace treaty everybody is looking for as per their interpretation of Daniel 9.24-27).
This covenant between Israel and Saudi Arabia could very well be the "covenant with death" mentioned by Isaiah (in Isaiah 28.15). Not only will this covenant bring death to Israel, but it is also signed with the very entity where the cult of death/Islam was born.

- When the "covenant with death" is signed, it will put into motion the unfolding of the end times events. We see the emergence of a new Middle East, which gets divided into two main blocks:

1- The pro-Israel nations: the Abraham accord nations, including Egypt, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, etc. Altogether these nations could represent what Daniel 11 calls "the king of the South".

2- The cons-Israel nations: the future antichrist coalition, including Turkey [the leading nation], Iran, Afghanistan, etc. 10 nations will join the antichrist to resurrect the Ottoman empire (what will it look like, we do not know. It could very well be a commercial and/or military alliance). Altogether these nations could represent what Daniel 11 calls "the king of the North".

- The above happens within the next 3,5 years.

In the meantime, in the rest of the world, the wars and rumours of wars worsen. China succeeds in its plan to overtake the USA as the number one power in the world. Ukraine is defeated by Russia due to the lack of concrete support from the Democrat administration. Things worsen in Europe with civil up-roars and ethnos fighting against ethnos.

The 2024 US elections are (once again) stolen. The Democrat Marxists continue to destroy the US from within until its almost collapse before China. The Western world continue to implement the Chinese model (with video cameras everywhere tracking and tracing people) and freedom continue to disappear, slowly but surely.

One way or another, the US have to be weakened for the future antichrist invasion of Israel. In the current war, we clearly see the US standing with Israel. The forces just being deployed in the Mediterranean by the US are impressive and will surely make Iran or any other nation think twice before making any move. This is one of the reasons that tells me there won’t be any war escalation this time.

Things won’t be the case in the future. When Israel is invaded, the US won’t be able to stand on its side like they are doing right now. Clearly, this means that something will have to change for the US in the next 3 years. What will it be? Time will tell, but a complete loss of Word wide power to China could be one explanation…

- The turmoil in the Western world with the fall of the US and the rise of China leaves Turkey and its allies free pass to move forward, form their alliance. Several wars erupt in the Middle East, Egypt is taken by the antichrist and Israel falls in 2027.

Prior to the 2027 invasion of Israel, we see the re-start (one way or another) of the daily sacrifices either on an altar or in light setting as the tabernacle.
When antichrist attacks Israel and enters into Jerusalem, he puts an end to the sacrifices, comes into the Al-Aqsa Mosque and present himself as al Mahdi. Muslims all around the world pledge allegiance to him and the final jihad starts. We see Muslim taking arms and attacking Jews and Christians all around the world. Welcome to the great tribulation…

Everywhere Muslim take control of a town or of a territory - whether in the Middle East (the very epicentre of the end time events) or in another part of the world - people will have two options: take the mark of the beast through their allegiance to Islam and the antichrist or die.

During the short reign of the antichrist, chaos will erupt just about everywhere, knowing that there are Muslims all around the world. When they see the unfolding of the end time events in the Middle East, Israel invaded and Jerusalem sized and “freed”, they will rally the antichrist and fight for Allah’s cause.

After 3.5 years of chaos in Israel/the Middle East and other parts of the world, Yeshua returns to re-unite the glorified Israel and judge the very nations that have participated in the carnage of Jews (Juda) and Christians (mostly Ephraim).

Here is the list of the very nations set for the wrath of Yahweh:
- Moav Edom, Seir, Amalek => Jordan + Arabia (Numbers 24; Isaiah 21; Jeremiah 49; Ezekiel 35)
- Ammon => Jordan (Jeremiah 49)
- Babylon => Iraq (Isaiah 13-14; Jeremiah 50-51)
- Assyria => Northern Iraq (Isaiah 14:25; 30:30-33; Zephaniah; Micah 5)
- Damascus => Syria (Isaiah 17; Jeremiah 49; Amos 1; Zechariah 9)
- Yavan => Turkey (Zechariah 9; Joel 3.6 )
- Gaza, Philistines => Palestinians (Isaiah 14.28-33; Jeremiah 47; Joel 3)
- Egypt (Isaiah 19; Jeremiah 46; Ezekiel 29.32)
- Tyre => Lebanon (Ezekiel 28; Joel 3)
- Magog, Mescheck, Tubal, Togarmah, Gomer => Turkey (Ezekiel 38)
- Persia => Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan (Ezekiel 38)
- Arabia => Saudi Arabia, UAE (Isaiah 21; Jeremiah 49)
- Ethiopia => Sudan (Isaiah 18)
- Libya (Ezekiel 38)
- Elam => Iran (Jeremiah 49)

It is interesting to note that the biblical text only focuses on Middle Eastern nations. All the nations mentioned in Scripture in the context of God's wrath have in common Islam as a religion and a hatred for Israel. No wonder why these nations are set for the wrath!

Is the above biblical? Is the above plausible? What are your thoughts?

Be blessed!

François-Xavier

Right now anything that is presented in this blog is plausible…….we can’t rule out anything. It will be revealed to us more as time goes by. Just think if you believe Francois-Xavier that the democrats will steel the election again next year that will really set the stage for what you are saying is going to happen. I so thank Messiah2030 for allowing us to interact with many who have such inside and historical contents. I would never be able to know as much as I do now. Thank you.

Bonsoir Shelli,

If 2027 is the year of the antichrist's invasion of Israel, and knowing he will succeed in his entreprise, this likely means that the US won't be here to help Israel. If the Democrats were to remain on board after the 2024 elections and continue their destruction of the US from inside, it could explain why the US won't be here to help Israel.
If Trump gets back, he would likely rescue Israel.

Having said that, if Abba's timing is 2027, whatever the results of the US elections, things will play out the way they are supposed to!

Be blessed

@François-Xavier

Interesting predictions sir. Allow me to pick your brain.

Do you think that Israel will have complete occupation and control of Gaza? What will happen to the Palestinians there? It would be a hot spot for insurgency (even more so than before) and Israel would basically have to maintain a police state over Gaza. This would lead to even greater anti-Israel sentiment and liberate Palestine propaganda.

What do you foresee pushing Israel and Saudi into a covenant?

It would be painful to witness another stolen election. However, it would surely be another sign of the times.

Regarding the Al-Aqsa Mosque and Temple Mount:

Have you considered that as the current conflict evolves, Israel will take control of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and Temple Mount, and build the third temple? History appears to show that the Jews will not restart sacrifices unless it takes place on temple grounds on the Temple Mount. Where would these sacrifices be otherwise? Is it an abomination for an Islamic man to enter an Islamic temple and declares himself god, or only when he does it in the temple of God?

[Mark 13:14 NKJV] 14 "So when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not" (let the reader understand), "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

[2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 NKJV] 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Based on those verses I believe a third temple is a prerequisite to the revealing of the man of sin and the AOD. Furthermore, Israel reclaiming the Temple Mount (third holiest site in Islam) may be the catalyst for the 10-nation anti-Israel coalition. As these nations currently wish for the destruction of Israel, they are not willing to step out in full-force against Israel outside of proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah. Something has to finally tip them over the edge. Occupation of Gaza and reclaiming the Temple Mount (destruction of Al-Aqsa Mosque) could be the catalysts.

However, Revelation does use the word 'tabernacle'.

[Revelation 13:6 NKJV] 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.

Taking Scripture in totality I am nonetheless convinced of a third temple.

Hola Oro y Plata,

Thanks for your input. Here are a few thoughts…

Regarding your first question, time will tell. Netanyahu had many opportunities in the past to eradicate Hamas. He never did!

What will he do this time is yet to be seen. He is not in an easy position, since the Democrats are helping Hamas giving them millions of dollars (through the so-called humanitarian help, which they know fully well is managed by the Hamas) and indirectly financing them through the billions they grant to Iran.
We do not know what Blinken imposed upon Bibi (“if you want weapons, you’d better listen to what we tell you to do”). One way or another, if Israel gives a “fatal” blow to Hamas and occupies Gaza, we can bet that Hamas will resurrect from its ashes in the future. Only Yeshua will defeat Hamas once and for all when He returns.

"What do you foresee pushing Israel and Saudi into a covenant?"

=> Saudi Arabia’s approach is two folds: Saudis want to make sure that money keeps coming into the kingdom when the oil is gone. They are looking at diversifying their income and open themselves to the Western World. In their eyes, NEOM and tourism are ways to achieve such goals.

Saudis have realised that their main military threat does not come from Israel but from Iran. They know that Israel is not looking to expend its territory through war. Israel is peaceful. Iran is not. Iran has a revolution to export and chaos to create in order to hasten the coming of their 12th imam (Al Mahdi). This is what they openly proclaim.

So, through the coming covenant, Saudis will make sure that Israel is on their side. Not only will they benefit from all the Israeli innovations and coming business partnership in their NEOM project, but should Iran invade Saudi Arabia, they will have Israel on their side. At least that is what they think…
Needless to say, that Saudi Arabia – which is the best biblical candidate for Mystery Babylon – does not have a clue about what is coming its way! It will utterly and completely be destroyed by the antichrist’s coalition sometime during the great tribulation.

"It would be painful to witness another stolen election. However, it would surely be another sign of the times."

=> Sure will. The democrats managed to steal the election when Trump was President. I would be surprised if they do not manage to do so again, now they have all the power. The way they are going after Trump is a disgrace.

"Have you considered that as the current conflict evolves, Israel will take control of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and Temple Mount, and build the third temple?"

=> Personally, I do not think the Hamas war will change the status quo on the Temple Mount. The place has been under supervision of Jordan through the Waqf for ages. Israel could have retaken and managed the place after the 1967 war, but they decided to leave it into the ends of the Muslims!

The Turkey lobby is also very present amongst the Waqf. What could make things change, though, is the coming covenant with Saudi Arabia. Rumours are that a normalization deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia will include an agreement that Saudi Arabia receives some authority or custodianship over the Temple Mount compound.

Could this be when the covenant (with death) goes ahead, Israel will have more rights on the Temple compound? Will it be a prelude that will enable the re-start of the sacrifices? Could well be!

Regarding the Temple, I do not think we’ll see a third temple before the return of Yeshua. The reason being that there are only three temples mentioned in the Bible : (1) Salomon’s first temple, (2) Salomon’s temple rebuilt and (3) the Millenium temple which will be built by the Branch/Yeshua.

Most people think there will be another temple before the one that will be built by Mashiah, because of the restart of the sacrifices and the verses you mention (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).

But for the sacrifices to start again, only an altar could do, or a light structure (such as a tabernacle).

"Is it an abomination for an Islamic man to enter an Islamic temple and declares himself god, or only when he does it in the temple of God?"

=> The man who will proclaim such will be empowered by ha satan, so it’s no wonder why he will present himself as a god.

My understanding is that he will do that in one of the mosques on the Temple Mount. His audience will be Muslims, the very ones who are waiting for this Mahdi figure. Maybe they will believe that the antichrist is of divine stature?

Let’s wait and see!

Blessings,

François-Xavier

Blessings received and thank you for the insightful response.

"Only Yeshua will defeat Hamas once and for all when He returns."

Amen. Only He who doth judge and make war will finally crush Israel's enemies.

I would love to see a detailed post about Mystery Babylon that includes a verse by verse look at Rev 17 and how Saudi is the likely candidate as I do not currently have a strong conclusion on this topic.

For example,

[Revelation 17:2 NKJV] 2 "with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication."

What has or will Saudi do to commit fornication (spiritual idolatry perhaps) with the kings and inhabitants of the earth?

Yeshua is my savior and Trump is my president. I will write his name on the ballot as he sits inside a jail cell if that's what it comes to. Nearly 250 years old this country is, a pretty good run for a constitutional republic. I would rather see her go out with a bang than slowly rot into a third-world nation ran entirely by a corrupt ruling class all the rest of my days.

You make a fair point about the Bible's mention of only three temples. I also do not know what the current Jewish sentiment surrounding a third temple is or even the restarting of blood sacrifices for that matter, and if there is even the critical mass for it outside of the orthodox community. Western Christianity has a strong view for a third temple that may be somewhat disconnected with that of modern Israeli-Jews, many of whom are secular. I therefore accept the possibility of there not being a third temple before Messiah returns.

I have a question about your statement, “ the Millennium temple which will be built by the Branch/Yeshua.” Could you please explain where in the Bible this is mentioned? I have not heard of this. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on Jewish history and how it all fits together in God’s word.

Hello @Shelli,

I believe @François-Xavier is referring to Ezekiel 40-48 concerning the millennial temple.

Bonjour Shelli,

"Could you please explain where in the Bible this is mentioned?"

Sure! ; -)

Here you go:

"Tell him this is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘Here is the man whose name is the Branch, and he will branch out from his place and build the temple of the Lord. It is he who will build the temple of the Lord, and he will be clothed with majesty and will sit and rule on his throne. And he will be a priest on his throne. And there will be harmony between the two.’ Zechariah 6:12-13

This passage refers to the Mashiah - the Branch - who will return and build the third temple. "Between the two of them" possibly refers to the function of King and Priest. Yeshua will be both King and High Priest, like Melchizedek.

Isaiah 4 makes clear what the Mashiah/The Branch will do during his millennial reign: "In that day the Branch of the Lord will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land will be the pride and glory of the survivors in Israel"

And like Oro y Plata points out, we can find the 3rd Temple (the Millenium one) in Ezekiel 40-48.

Hope it helps.

Be blessed!

François-Xavier

Shalom Ora y Plata,

Thanks for your message.

"I would love to see a detailed post about Mystery Babylon that includes a verse by verse look at Rev 17 and how Saudi is the likely candidate as I do not currently have a strong conclusion on this topic."

=> I would highely recommand the following book which makes a sound and well explained case:

https://joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Mystery-Babylon.pdf

Regarding the current Jewish sentiment surrounding a third temple is everything but widespread. A few orthodox Jews are all for it. You can learm more through The temple Institute website (https://templeinstitute.org).

How many Jews know them and approve their approach? I do not know the exact figures, but I would be very surprised if it were more than a tiny percentage of the Israeli population.

It is also important to understand that this notion of a "third" temple is also of interest only to a fringe of Christianity, namely amongst the Evangelicals who love Israel. I do not have the figures, but once again, if we look at all christianity, these could represent a very small percentage.

Those of us who are awake and who observe the signs of the times may think everybody is like us, but it is far from being the case!

Let's pray for people to open their eyes and wake-up!

Now is the time!

Be blessed,

François-Xavier

Shalom,

They say a picture is worth a thousand words...

https://x.com/D_abdulkader/status/1715849363673473458?s=20

This is what’s being shared on Turkish social media.

When one understands that Turkey is the main end time player, this makes perfect sense.

The eighth and final empire, which is the resurrection of the seventh empire is very likely to be a revived Ottoman empire. Time will soon tell whether this interpretation is the correct biblical one.

Blessings,

Thank you for sharing that twitter post regarding turkey. I have been banned from Twitter and I tried to get reinstated but they would not reinstate me.

@Francoix Xavier thank you very much for this link; https://joelstrumpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Mystery-Babylon.pdf
I have started to read it and can’t put it down. I had no idea that Islam succeeded after Mohammad in capturing and taking over the Middle East even more so then Rome did. So I now know that the seventh and the revised eighth kingdom is Islam. I have not finished the book yet and it might explain my next question if I continue to read but I will ask it anyway. So how bad is the 7th kingdom by islam going to be and when will it happened on the biblical time frame? Are we looking at it now developing as we see your post on Twitter with Turkey? The 8th being more at the end of the great tribulation?

Bonjour Shelli,

Glad you like this book from Joel Richardson.

MidEast Beast is another great one, I'd highly recommend.

“So how bad is the 7th kingdom by Islam going to be and when will it happened on the biblical time frame?”

=> Actually the 7th Kingdom, which was composed of the succeeding Caliphates that ruled over the Middle East (including the land of Israel) came to an end when it’s last incarnation – the Ottoman empire – was deadly wounded ,100 years ago (with the dismantling of the empire and the abolition of the office of the caliphate).

So the 7th kingdom is past. It killed millions of people and forced million of others to convert to Islam over the centuries.

I believe that Revelation 13 talks about the Ottoman empire when it talks about a fatal wound of one of the head of the beast. The fatal wound that will be healed could very well be the resurrection of the Ottoman empire in one form or another. Time will tell…

“Are we looking at it now developing as we see your post on Twitter with Turkey?”

=> If the timeframe proposed by Messiah 2030 happens to be correct, then we should see the re-formation of a sort of Ottoman empire, with Turkey at its head within the next 3,5 years.

This is a possibility, especially if you listen to what Erdogan (Turkey’s president) has to say about the Caliphate and his will to resurrect the Ottoman Empire. That’s what he’s been bragging about over the last few years.

“The 8th being more at the end of the great tribulation?”

=> I see it appearing on the scene prior to the tribulation.

Seeing at how fast things go, we won’t have too long to wait to see. What could very well trigger the resurrection of the Ottoman empire is the coming covenant between Israel and Saudi Arabia. When the pro-Israel block forms in the Middle East, I would be ready to bet that it won’t take long till we see the rise of a counter alliance made up of all the Middle Eastern nations that hate Israel and want to wipe the Jews off the map. When the Bible mentions the kingdom of the antichrist, it mentions 10 nations. These ten nations could be part of the new Ottoman empire.

Let’s wait and see!

Be blessed

I need help getting up to speed and making sure I am on the same page concerning the composition of the beast from the sea (Rev 13, 17).

First, this beast is stated to have seven heads, 10 horns, and on those horns are 10 crowns.

[Revelation 13:1 NKJV] 1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.

Let's first identify the seven heads.

[Revelation 17:9-10 NKJV] 9 "Here [is] the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 "There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, [and] the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.

Head 1: Egypt (ancient Egypt) - fallen
Head 2: Assyria - fallen
Head 3: Babylon - fallen
Head 4: Persia - fallen
Head 5: Greece (ancient Greece) - fallen
Head 6: Rome - is (at time of John)
Head 7: Ottoman Empire (has not yet come at time of John)

Any errors so far?

There is also one more head, an eighth, that is of [will assume the place of?] the seven.

[Revelation 17:11 NKJV] 11 "The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

So this "eighth" head is the future Islamic anti-Israeli kingdom coalition, aka the beast from the sea, correct?

Now let's identify the 10 horns with 10 crowns.

[Revelation 17:12-14 NKJV] 12 "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 "These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 "These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those [who are] with Him [are] called, chosen, and faithful."

Are the 10 horns the 10 nations that will comprise the future Islamic beast kingdom, each nation having a king who is the crown of that horn? If so, how many can we identify at this point? We can be confident of at least a few of the major players. The crowns (kings) can of course change in the future.

@François-Xavier

Earlier in the thread you gave a list of nations that will receive YHWH's wrath. I counted 13-14 modern-day nations in that list. Are the 10 horns found in that list? Can you, having much better history and geography than I, try and identify the 10 horns? I also do not know if the 10 horns should be identified (numbered) as they were historically in the Bible or as they are now in the modern day.

Here's a start.

Horn 1: Turkey, Crown = Erdogan
Horn 2: Iran, Crown = Raisi

Let's parallel the beast from the sea with the fourth beast in Dan 7.

Dan 7 is where three plucked horns are mentioned that give rise to the man of sin.

[Daniel 7:8 NKJV] 8 "I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, [were] eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.

Do we presently have any indicators as to the identity of the the three usurped horns that give rise to the man of sin?

There is one last thing I want to point out.

[Revelation 17:12 NKJV] 12 "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.

[Daniel 7:24 NKJV] 24 The ten horns [are] ten kings [Who] shall arise from this kingdom. And another shall rise after them; He shall be different from the first [ones], And shall subdue three kings.

Revelation and Daniel mention that the 10 horns are 10 kings who have received no kingdom as of yet, and that they arise from the eighth (beast) kingdom. Perhaps then that the 10 horns should be identified as nations in the present day, as they were not yet at the time of John? Dan 7:24 and Rev 17:12 state that the 10 horns arise FROM the beast kingdom and receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. It does not say that they FORM the beast kingdom. What are we to take from this?