The prophesy in Ezekiel tells us of sieges of Jerusalem. Those sieges are benchmarks.
In the presentation in Messiah 2030 part 2, the benchmark of the siege at 701 BCE is used as a starting point. The second benchmark is used as an endpoint.
It should be both used as an endpoint.
This amazing prophecy and explanation helps us to see that the year 2030 will be the year where we all meet each other and will be united with Jesus.
Concerning Ezekiel 4
To the left of the timeline is 701 BC
Ezekiel lays on left side for 390 days
(Siege)
To the Right of Timeline he lays on right for 40 Days. (Siege)
Daniel 8:14 2300 Days for Sanctuary to be Victorious ( as stated in hebrew)
701BC + 2030 AD = 2730
2730- 390 -40 = 2030
Daniel Prophesy of 2300 Days aligns with Ezekiel Prophesy of punishment
Which aligns with punishment timeline.
That is amazing. I still have some difficulty with 701 being the start date for the punishment of the house of Isreal - because their captivity by Assyria was completed 21 years prior in 722 BC with the fall of Samaria. I would appreciate your insight on that.
I was looking too in history to find what happened 390 years before 701 BCE. Couldn’t find it either. Don’t know what was in Gods mind to tell us about the 390 years, but I’m sure He had a good reason.
I just noticed that April’s original message seems to have been edited from
“2730-390-40=2300”(thus aligning with 2300 in Daniel)
To “2730-390-40=2030 “(this is mathematically incorrect)
I am not sure why this was changed?
I accidentally put 2030 instead of 2300
701 BC to 2030 AD = 2730 added up minus zero year, There is no zero year.
Ezekiel 4:4-11 has 390 and 40 as punishment
Daniel 8:14 2300 total proclaimed.
2730 - 390 - 40 = 2300
This fulfills Daniel 8:14 and confirms year of 2030 as year of completion.
April, thank you for the clarification. Messiah 2030’s presentation multiplies Judah’s punishment 7x7x40 =1960 added to destruction of Jerusalem/temple in 70 AD = 2030 (Thus, Judah’s punishment commenced in 70AD).
7x390 For House of Isreal = 2730
701 BC + 2730 =2030 (Thus, Israel’s punishment commenced in 701 BC)
Which is very compelling, but doesn’t quite line up with the 722BC fall of Samaria - Capitol of the House of Isreal. (the start of the Assyrian captivity is even 10 years previous at 732 BC) or explain why Israel’s punishment should be counted from the siege of her sister’s city of Jerusalem.
The 430 years (390 + 40= 430) equates to the length of the original nation of Israel’s sojourn in Egypt. 430 added to Daniel’s 2300 starting at 701 BC also strangely adds to 2030. The numbers work, but hinge on 701...I am trying to get a better understanding of why that date applies to the house of Isreal. Otherwise, it could be that these prophecies are to be understood differently than this - which I do not think necessarily detracts from all of the other very compelling evidence provided by Messiah 2030. If 701 BC is being correctly applied, 2030 becomes something more than compelling. This is only my humble opinion, and I have no claim whatsoever to biblical insight.
I do go off the first seige of 701 BC. This is common amongst scholars, and there are many prisms and artifacts of Hezekiah's reign and Sennacherib dating to about this time.
https://www.generationword.com/museum/kings.php
Here's some you can research.
Going off the 1st seige, even though unsuccessful due to Hezekiah pleading to God, this appears to start the seige prophesy regardless.
God keeps his timing exact and gives to those who call on Him and repent.
Thank you, April. I will check that out. My understanding is that AD calendar starts at year 1 (no year 0)., so that brings you up from 2029 back to 2030.
Thank you April,
430 is also 1/3 of 1260, which may be important, but we are still sorting that out.
Daniel 8 also mentions how the 2300 is for the time of the end, thus the 2300 concludes in the end with the restoration of the temple in the land by Messiah Yeshua. This is likely at Hannukah and ends the 430 + 2300 years of punishment starting in 701 BCE.
The nations are judged on Yom Kippur 75 days before Hanukkah (which prophetically means the "dedication" of the temple) and concludes the wrath after the Great Tribulation (tribulation (for us) and wrath are separate (for them)). This is why Abraham was shown the land and the promise that through him all families of the Earth will be blessed at the age of 75. 10 days prior to that (the "10 days of awe" and bowls of wrath) is Yom Teruah which concludes the Great Tribulation and is the day of Messiah's return and the first resurrection (rapture). 1260 days prior is Firstfruits (Spring 2027) and likely the Abomination of Desolation (2 Thes 2), right after winter (early rains) and the day after the Sabbath (i.e. Matthew 24:20).
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Though we understand what you are saying and why you are saying it, the math and prophecy does not work that way. The starting point for the punishment period is when we see the punishment beginning and recycles at the first siege. For the House of Israel, that was at the first siege and recycles at the siege. For the House of Judah, the punishment period began at the Messiah's death at the hands of the House of Judah as evidenced by the temple miracles and likewise recycles at the last siege.
The final version of this presentation will explain that in a bit more detail.
Thanks for your answer. I still think it is not logical to use different ways of looking at the benchmarks. To me it's logical to look either backwards or forward from the benchmark. Because we know the years between crucifixion and the second siege is 40 years, it logical to look back from the second benchmark. If we do it at the second siege we should do that at first siege as well.
Probably the forty years are not years of punishment but they are years of testing.
40 x 7 = 280 of punishment and testing.
280 years + the year of the siege 70AD = year 350 AD.
At year 350 AD the Jews didn’t repent so a second round of punishment / testing is added. 280 x 7 = 1960.
1960 + 70AD = 2030.
As I said a few posts back that I couldn’t find a date that tells us what happened at the start of the 390 years. I was thinking can it be that God used that number just to get us, at the end of days, using that number to get to the year 2030AD?
Israel was at the time Ezekiel got this prophecy, already 10 years taken captive.
For me the 390 years are a mystery.
BTW I would love to have the text from the second video as a PDF. Is that available?
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Ezekiel laid on left side (of timeline)
And then on right side (of timeline)
This is why there is a left and right. First seige punishment starts on left, 2nd seige punishment starts on right.
It was for us to understand later.
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Concerning Ezekiel 4
To the left of the timeline is 701 BC
Ezekiel lays on left side for 390 days
(Siege)
To the Right of Timeline he lays on right for 40 Days. (Siege)
Daniel 8:14 2300 Days for Sanctuary to be Victorious ( as stated in hebrew)
701BC + 2030 AD = 2730
2730 - 390 - 40 = 2300
Daniel Prophesy of 2300 Days aligns with Ezekiel Prophesy of punishment
Which aligns with punishment timeline.
Left of timeline (Ezekiel lays on left)
Right of timeline (Ezekiel lays on right)
This is why it was prophesied this way.
For clarification of why the starting points for each.
I just want to throw it out there as I've heard a different theory on the 2,300 days that is compelling from our history, Daniel's future, just under a couple hundred years before Christ. We see a series of animals and horns described visually and these are later interpreted for Daniel.
- Ram with 2 horns = 2 kings of Media and Persia (Medo-Persia)
- He Goat with notable horn = King of Greece (Alexander the Great)
- Four notable horns from the broken notable horn = four kingdoms arising out of it [Alexander's kingdom was split between his four generals]
- Seleucus I - Seleucid empire (Turkey to India)
- Cassander - Macedonia (Greece)
- Lysimachus - Thracia (between Turkey and Greece)
- Ptolemy I - (Egypt)
- Out of one of them a little horn waxes great and by him the daily sacrifice is taken away and the sanctuary cast down.
We're then told it will be trodden under foot for 2,300 evenings (ereb) and mornings (boqer) (translated days), then the sanctuary will be cleansed. Daniel is told this will be for a "time at the end" and "in the last end of the indignation for the time appointed the end shall be." However, the definitions for these fit into our historical record amazingly well. It may be that time at the end is from Daniel's perspective just before the first 69 weeks would be fulfilled and the Messiah arrives.
Verse 23 interprets the time of this little horn "in the latter time of their kingdom," being the four kingdoms that rise up from Alexander the Great. This king of fierce countenance destroys the mighty and holy people. This is the one who stops the daily sacrifice and casts down the sanctuary. We have this character too from history, Antiochus Epiphanes IV, who stopped the daily sacrifice and setup an idol in the temple for the Jews to worship. This abomination of desolation in 167 BC triggered the Maccabean revolt.
So how does the 2,300 days fit into this? I can't explain it better than the site below. Basically, on a 360-day calendar used historically, and counting the evening and morning sacrifices, and the detailed accounts of when the stopping of the daily sacrifice (I Maccabees 1:54) and starting back up were (I Maccabees 4:52-53), there were 1,150 evenings and 1,150 mornings for a total of 2,300 between those times. Chanukah was instituted from this time at the end when the temple was rededicated!
So the two saints talking, answering the question "How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?" is answered in context of the daily sacrifice that was stopped and since the daily sacrifice consists of a morning and evening sacrifice, that was the number of ereb boqer until the sanctuary was cleansed.
The site is no longer up, but thanks to the Wayback Machine it's still accessible:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220219045008/http://moellerhaus.com/2300.htm
This isn't to say there is no possible future echo of this, as we saw with Antiochus, he was a kind of foreshadow of the man of sin yet to come. I just wanted to throw in the historical perspective of the 2,300 days for those who may not have heard it before because I think it's an amazing testimony of prophecy.