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Do you have any inside or knowledge through the Bible or old historical writings on the date of Jesus’s birth? Many have been saying he was born on Sept 11th…….what is your knowledge of the date?
Also if we are in the 7 year for Christ to return then how do you see the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls playing out and when? Any information you can give would be appreciated. Thanks again for this wonderful and precise video on our Lord’s return.

We are not against the September 11th 3 BCE date for Messiah Yeshua's birth. There is reasonable evidence for it, but we would not consider it definitive proof. It is the most likely date.

The seven years begins on September 15th 2023, but there is no seven year tribulation.

We can give you our conclusions, but it would take a couple hours to explain the means to arrive to them.

Seals 1-4 were opened in 30 CE

We are paused on the 5th seal.

The Messiah fulfilled the first 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week. There is only 3.5 years left, which explains why Daniel 12 and Revelation only mention 3.5 years.

The remaining THREE seals and SEVEN (3&7) trumpets begins Spring of 2027 and concludes on Yom Teruah 2030 with the 3rd woe/7th trumpet (3&7)

The bowls of wrath begin after the Great Tribulation and after the 7th trumpet, during the 10 days of awe, between Yom Teruah and Yom Kippur 2030. 75 days later (think Abraham) we are in the land and the Messiah anoints the Most Holy on Hanukkah (dedication in Hebrew).

The Abomination of Desolation will be on Firstfruits 2027.

This all assumes the Messiah 2030 presentations to be accurate.

Details will be in part 3, but will take about 12 months of work by our team to complete. In the meantime we will likely release some short teachings:

The 144,000
What is the Mark of the Beast?
Evidence for Messiah's Death in 30 CE

Any thoughts on when witnesses come?

The length of the two witnesses is 1260 days (Rev 11:3). They die at the second woe (Rev. 11:14). The second woe is also the 6th trumpet (Rev. 9:12 - Three woes are the last three of seven (3/7) trumpets). The 3rd woe / 7th trumpet (3/7) follows SOON after the 2nd woe and 6th trumpet (Rev. 11:14). This means that the two witnesses likely arrive at or very near the Abomination of Desolation which kickstarts the 3.5 year Great Tribulation. We already know that the first resurrection is at the last/7th trumpet and occurs soon after the death of the two witnesses. The two witnesses lie dead for 3.5 days. We suspect that the two witnesses are thus resurrected at the same time as everyone else (3rd woe/7th Trumpet), since the Messiah's cloud is already in the sky (Rev. 11:12).

@April The two witnesses lay dead for three days, then they are resurrected. That appears to align with the first resurrection. Which means their 42 months lines up with other 3.5 year times in prophecy, including the woman in the wilderness period. So going with the Messiah2030 timeline, they would be revealed in 2026 - 2027. (I think they are revealed to the world at that time, but they will not be unfamiliar to God's people. fun surprise there.)

Wow thank you for answering my question on Jesus’s birth. When you read the first 4 seals it makes for a conformation to me that what you are saying is that the first 4 seals were opened in 30 CE has been happening for 20000 years and the 5th seal is what the saints in white robes are asking how long and they weee told to wait until it is complete. Which will be complete soon. Tell me why hasn’t any other scholars or people who study the Bible not seen that the first 4 seals where open when Jesus died and rose? I have heard some people say now the first 2 or 3 seals have opened. You brought up a very interesting point on we only have 3 1/2 years left and the Messiah has fulfilled the first 3 1/2 years of Daniel’s 70th week. Wow I have not heard it that way at all. But that one has me confused because it says he will make a covenant with many for one week…….one week is 7 years is what I have known it to be. Then after 3 1/2 years he puts an end to the scarifies and offering. Daniel 9:27. So my understanding is 7 years then 3 1/2 years the Mews have their temple to sacrifice and then it ends and the last 3 1/2 years great tribulation the seals and trumpets.
So let’s go with what you have said about the last 3 1/3 years which starts at the first fruits in 2027 of the abomination of desolation. And the remaining seals begin in Spring of 2027. What is going to happen or suppose to happen according to the Bible between now and spring of 2027? It just continues the way it has been? Anything biblical telling us of the next 3 years?
Definitely looking forward to the release of short teachings you have listed for sure.
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Tell me why hasn’t any other scholars or people who study the Bible not seen that the first 4 seals where open when Jesus died and rose?

Some have. But most scholars simply regurgitate what they have been taught from others and dispensationalistic thinking is an obstacle to solid eschatology.

Read Revelation 5. John is located in the throne room (Rev 5:1). They are looking for someone worthy to open the seals for the scroll (Rev 5:2). The scroll cannot be read until the seals are opened. The scroll likely announces the kingship and kingdom of Messiah Yeshua (Rev 5:10). John weeps loudly (Rev 5:4). Out of all of the death and suffering John saw in Revelation, this is the time that he weeps, when no one is found worthy to open the scroll. Why?!?

John knows two things. Yeshua is worthy and he should be in the throne room, but Yeshua is not in the throne room where he is supposed to be after his ascension. John is overwhelmed with the fact that Yeshua is not where he is supposed to be. He believes something is horribly wrong. Why is Yeshua not yet ascended to the throne room? He weeps uncontrollably.

Suddenly Yeshua arrives, as though he “had just been slain.” (Rev 5:6) John was taken back in time to witness Yeshua beginning to open the scrolls in 30 CE, the year of his ascension, when he “had just been slain” and “ascended” right into the throne room. John was blessed to see that occur.

Then the question is “how many seals did Yeshua open in 30 CE.” The Biblical pattern is 4:3, so that is most likely. But, there are more clues. Seal 1 is often believed to be the AC. John stated that the spirit of the AC was “already in the world.” (1 John 4:3) This is not to say we are not expecting the AC to arrive, this is to say that the AC process started in 30 C.E., the rejection of YHWH’s Messiah and the Torah that the Messiah taught and practiced as an example for us.

When we read Matthew 24, we see that war, death, pestilence, destroyed currencies, are all part of the last 2,000 years and consistent with seals 1-4. However, maybe Messiah only opened the first seal in the first century? We do not yet know for certain. Regardless, it does at least appear to be a near certainty that the process of opening the seals began in 30 C.E.

But that one has me confused because it says he will make a covenant with many for one week…….one week is 7 years is what I have known it to be.

In the Aramaic it does not say that a covenant is “made.” The Aramaic states that a covenant was “strengthened” (gabar).

We believe that there are only 3.5 years of Daniel’s 70th week left. There is no seven-year tribulation. To explain this properly requires more time than we have, but we do intend on producing a presentation on this eventually. All answers are assuming the Messiah 2030 timeline is correct.

The 70th week of Daniel is based on Daniel 9. In our studies, the 70th week began in Fall 26 C.E. and ended Spring 30 C.E. We know this because it was the Messiah who strengthened (gabar) the New Covenant, and is related to the scope of Messianic work detailed by Daniel 9:

"to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place."

The Messiah fulfilled the first half of the work in 30 C.E. which took 3.5 years and he was then "cut off."

 to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity,

The Messiah will then fulfill the second half of the work ending in 2030 C.E. and will again take another 3.5 years:

 to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place."

While the Antichrist is mentioned in Daniel 9, the "he" who "strengthens (gabar) the covenant is not the AC, but refers back to the Messiah, as the context and focus of Daniel 9. Daniel 9's focus is not the AC, but the Messiah (see the 6 goals of the Messiah as the scope of the Messiah’s work for the 70th week), and western eschatology has mistakenly made the focus of Daniel 9 about an antichrist when that is not really the point.

The structure of Daniel 9 in the Aramaic is a Hebraic poetic dichotomy, in which the subject bounces back and forth between what the Messiah is doing to strengthen the covenant, and what the AC is doing to attempt to stop it.

The “he” who strengthens a covenant (new covenant) is Messiah Yeshua, but he was cut off at his death after 3.5 years. The process will pick back up again at the Great Tribulation which is, of course, 3.5 years in length. The Messiah will then finish the remaining action items that need to be finished, concluding with anointing the Most Holy at the very end of the 1335 days on Hannukah 2030.

There are only 3.5 years left, which is why Daniel 12 only mentions 3.5 years and Revelation only mentions 3.5 years…because there are only 3.5 years left to go related to the 70th week. It is actually absurdly simple. The dispensationalistic pre-trib camp have made quite a mess of things for a lot of people.

What is going to happen or suppose to happen according to the Bible between now and spring of 2027?

Perhaps nothing, perhaps something. Maybe the MOTB, maybe Damascus destroyed, but the timing of these things are not clear. The MOTB is so close to being implemented now. The tools are in place, and we already see CBDC’s about to be combined with ESG. When that happens, and they make it impossible to agree with the terms of ESG because it intentionally conflicts with the Bible, then that will be the MOTB. It will be impossible to buy/sell because all currency will be digital and based on terms of service that no Bible believing Christian should agree to.

What we are waiting for is the AOD which will prove the timeline correct, or incorrect if it does not happen by end of Spring 2027.

The net net of it is this. It is the six things that the Messiah must do in order to "strengthen" the new covenant. As an example, did the Messiah "atone for iniquity" in his 3.5 years of his first coming after the 69th week? Of course he did. Since that is true, then the Messiah's first coming of 3.5 years MUST be inclusive of part of the 70th week, and 7 minus 3.5 leaves us with just 3.5 years left.

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We apologize that this post appears rushed. This is difficult to communicate and hard for people to see if they have been trained in pre-trib dispensationalism. However, it is the only way to see it, unless we were to say that the Messiah accomplished none of those 6 things in his first coming of 3.5 years.

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Thank you once again for giving me your insight on my questions. Something I am going to have to ponder and reread scripture. I was once pre trib but came to the understanding that was not biblical. I also was under the understanding that we will go through seven years of tribulation that will start soon and we will know. But it never sat well with me as I read the first 4 seals because to me they have and are happening now. And the 5th as you have stated is a pause which is why the saints are waiting for it to be complete. Which to me seems to be right. Now we wait and see what will happen next.
I looked up MOTB almost being implemented and I come up with nothing that made me understand exactly what it stands for. The other abbreviations I understand.

Sorry, MOTB = Mark of the beast :)

There is an interesting argument some make that all 7 seals were broken. The evidence is when Jesus, after his resurrection, tells the disciples "all power in heaven and earth has been given unto me..."

This interpretation is taking the position that things John witnessed in heaven did not require time travel, rather he stepped away from time. So events in the throne room or in heaven can manifest in time according to it's appointed time.

In this same perspective, Babylon has fallen too.

We can look to other sections of revelation where John is describing events that occur on earth as a narrative to get clues about our experiential timeline. Like chapters 12 and 13 and so on.

For what it is worth, I think the mark is spiritual. Yes, they are bringing out technology that could be the mark, but I believe they are doing that to make Christians confused and scared. Hugo Talks does an excellent breakdown of the mark of the beast. It's worth listening to just to get a different (and refreshing) opinion. He also has a video that explains buying and selling.

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I would love for you to answer these questions (4):

1. How do you explain the black sun, blood moon, and stars falling at the opening of Seal 6 to what Yeshua, Luke, and Isaiah described as the same cosmic event taking place just prior to His coming? Is this cosmic event described at any other point in scripture outside of the opening of Seal 6 and just prior to the coming of the Son of Man?

[Revelation 6:12-13 NKJV] 12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.

[Matthew 24:29-30 NKJV] 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 "Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

[Mark 13:24-26 NKJV] 24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 "the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

[Luke 21:25-27 NKJV] 25 "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 "men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

[Acts 2:20 NKJV] 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD.

[Isaiah 13:9-10 NKJV] 9 Behold, the day of the LORD comes, Cruel, with both wrath and fierce anger, To lay the land desolate; And He will destroy its sinners from it. 10 For the stars of heaven and their constellations Will not give their light; The sun will be darkened in its going forth, And the moon will not cause its light to shine.

2. Based on your framework, the coming of the son of man would NOT be like in the days of Noah and Lot - eating, drinking, and marrying (Mat 24:37-39, Luk 17:20-37) - because mankind would have the trumpet and bowl judgments to contend with. Mere survival would be a daily struggle at that point. However, if the Son of Man comes prior to wrath, it would very much be like in the days of Noah and Lot - people going about their lives ignorant and unbelieving of what is to come - up to the point of it suddenly being too late.

3. While nothing is impossible for God, I cannot picture how those in Christ during the time of wrath will simultaneously survive His judgment (e.g. Bowl 3 turns all freshwater into blood and man cannot survive without water for more than a few days) unless they are one of the 144,000 sealed. The Day of the Lord is described over and over in scripture as a time of judgment against the wicked. Will those in Christ simply become collateral damage?

Edit: I re-read one of your earlier posts and see that you place the coming of Christ after Trumpet 7 and before Bowl 1. This makes more sense. You may ignore this question or speak to it in some way if you would like.

4. The MOTB cannot occur prior to the AOD. Satan must first wage war against Israel and then shift to the remnant who keep the commandments of God and testimony of Jesus Christ (Rev 12:17). He gives power, his throne, and great authority to the beast from the sea, who healed from a mortal wound, makes war with the saints. All whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb will worship the dragon (Rev 13:1-10). The beast from the earth (false prophet) deceives those on the earth with great signs, causing them to worship the first beast and killing those who do not. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads (Rev 13:11-18). This all occurs after the daily sacrifice is stopped, the AOD takes place (Dan 12:11, Mat 24:15, Mar 13:14) - the man of sin is revealed and exalts himself as God in the temple of God with authority to continue for 42 months (2Th 2:3-4, Dan 7:25, Rev 13:5).